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The 5K's are a PITA to mount on most rims, the 4Ks were not. That is a major difference.
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4000's in the 700x25c size are noticeably larger than a 5000. I learned that because with 4000's there is very little clearance between my fork and tire but with the 5000 there is several mm's more clearance. That may be a contributor to the 4000's having more rolling resistance.
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Boyd Cycling (who makes a darn fine carbon wheel, IMHO) has issued a warning about potential damage caused by attempting to mount the GP5000 tubeless on their wheels. Basically, if you try, and damage the wheel, they won't cover it. Should tell you something.
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I can tell you from first hand experience that the GP5000 tubeless tires are the most difficult to mount tires I've ever tried. So hard, in fact, that after 4 hours of trying (the last hour at the LBS) we gave up. I went with GP5000 clinchers with tubes and had zero mounting issues.
Boyd Cycling (who makes a darn fine carbon wheel, IMHO) has issued a warning about potential damage caused by attempting to mount the GP5000 tubeless on their wheels. Basically, if you try, and damage the wheel, they won't cover it. Should tell you something.
Boyd Cycling (who makes a darn fine carbon wheel, IMHO) has issued a warning about potential damage caused by attempting to mount the GP5000 tubeless on their wheels. Basically, if you try, and damage the wheel, they won't cover it. Should tell you something.
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I can tell you from first hand experience that the GP5000 tubeless tires are the most difficult to mount tires I've ever tried. So hard, in fact, that after 4 hours of trying (the last hour at the LBS) we gave up. I went with GP5000 clinchers with tubes and had zero mounting issues.
Boyd Cycling (who makes a darn fine carbon wheel, IMHO) has issued a warning about potential damage caused by attempting to mount the GP5000 tubeless on their wheels. Basically, if you try, and damage the wheel, they won't cover it. Should tell you something.
Boyd Cycling (who makes a darn fine carbon wheel, IMHO) has issued a warning about potential damage caused by attempting to mount the GP5000 tubeless on their wheels. Basically, if you try, and damage the wheel, they won't cover it. Should tell you something.
I just had to change a tube roadside on a GP5000 today, and can attest it actually was one of the easiest tube changes I've ever done. What you say about the tubeless version is downright scary. How bad does a tire have to be to pose a danger to the wheel on install? And even if you had successfully mounted it after 4 hours, there's likely no way you ever would have bought another one.
Sounds like Conti needs to go back to the drawing board on that one.
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I just had to change a tube roadside on a GP5000 today, and can attest it actually was one of the easiest tube changes I've ever done. What you say about the tubeless version is downright scary. How bad does a tire have to be to pose a danger to the wheel on install? And even if you had successfully mounted it after 4 hours, there's likely no way you ever would have bought another one.
Sounds like Conti needs to go back to the drawing board on that one.
Sounds like Conti needs to go back to the drawing board on that one.
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I just had to change a tube roadside on a GP5000 today, and can attest it actually was one of the easiest tube changes I've ever done. What you say about the tubeless version is downright scary. How bad does a tire have to be to pose a danger to the wheel on install? And even if you had successfully mounted it after 4 hours, there's likely no way you ever would have bought another one.
Sounds like Conti needs to go back to the drawing board on that one.
Sounds like Conti needs to go back to the drawing board on that one.
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