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Old 06-26-21, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Troul
I have yet to go 4,000 miles without a flat on the c4k, I highly doubt I could go 5,000 miles before a flat when using the c5k tires.
My rear tire will wear to the threads in much less than 5000 miles.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
My rear tire will wear to the threads in much less than 5000 miles.
nice of your state to keep the roadways free from debris.
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Originally Posted by pickysoul
GP 5000 gets puncture easilier than 4000. try Pirelli Pzero,dude.
I came off Gatorskins that I never got punctures in, to GP 5000 that I seem to have off every other week. Technically that's not true, but anecdotally I find it to be very true.
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
That's good to know, I was unaware. The 5000s seem true to size while the 4000s were often larger than nominal. Other than that, I can't tell a difference. Nice tires, both.

The 5K's are a PITA to mount on most rims, the 4Ks were not. That is a major difference.
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Originally Posted by Troul
I have yet to go 4,000 miles without a flat on the c4k, I highly doubt I could go 5,000 miles before a flat when using the c5k tires.
is that Actually whT the number means? Never knew.
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Originally Posted by spelger
is that Actually whT the number means? Never knew.

Actually, it's the price in pennies.
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Originally Posted by Nessism
4000's in the 700x25c size are noticeably larger than a 5000. I learned that because with 4000's there is very little clearance between my fork and tire but with the 5000 there is several mm's more clearance. That may be a contributor to the 4000's having more rolling resistance.
Yes, the ETRTO changed its standards for expected rim width to wider rims between the release of the 4000 and the 5000, so the same nominal size of 5000 expects a wider rim and will be smaller in width on the nominal rim spec’ed back when the 4000 came out.

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Originally Posted by spelger
is that Actually whT the number means? Never knew.
idk, but I'd just go with it being minutes before servicing is likely needed... ie: picking shards out of the casing.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
Tubeless or tubed version of 5000's are harder to mount?

I've no experience with the tubeless version, but the tubed version of the GP 5000 are some of the easiest to mount or remove. No levers needed.
I can tell you from first hand experience that the GP5000 tubeless tires are the most difficult to mount tires I've ever tried. So hard, in fact, that after 4 hours of trying (the last hour at the LBS) we gave up. I went with GP5000 clinchers with tubes and had zero mounting issues.
Boyd Cycling (who makes a darn fine carbon wheel, IMHO) has issued a warning about potential damage caused by attempting to mount the GP5000 tubeless on their wheels. Basically, if you try, and damage the wheel, they won't cover it. Should tell you something.
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Originally Posted by Bald Paul
I can tell you from first hand experience that the GP5000 tubeless tires are the most difficult to mount tires I've ever tried. So hard, in fact, that after 4 hours of trying (the last hour at the LBS) we gave up. I went with GP5000 clinchers with tubes and had zero mounting issues.
Boyd Cycling (who makes a darn fine carbon wheel, IMHO) has issued a warning about potential damage caused by attempting to mount the GP5000 tubeless on their wheels. Basically, if you try, and damage the wheel, they won't cover it. Should tell you something.
We need that guy who is going to sand his rims to make it easier to mount tires to chime in... lol!

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Originally Posted by Bald Paul
I can tell you from first hand experience that the GP5000 tubeless tires are the most difficult to mount tires I've ever tried. So hard, in fact, that after 4 hours of trying (the last hour at the LBS) we gave up. I went with GP5000 clinchers with tubes and had zero mounting issues.
Boyd Cycling (who makes a darn fine carbon wheel, IMHO) has issued a warning about potential damage caused by attempting to mount the GP5000 tubeless on their wheels. Basically, if you try, and damage the wheel, they won't cover it. Should tell you something.

I just had to change a tube roadside on a GP5000 today, and can attest it actually was one of the easiest tube changes I've ever done. What you say about the tubeless version is downright scary. How bad does a tire have to be to pose a danger to the wheel on install? And even if you had successfully mounted it after 4 hours, there's likely no way you ever would have bought another one.

Sounds like Conti needs to go back to the drawing board on that one.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
I just had to change a tube roadside on a GP5000 today, and can attest it actually was one of the easiest tube changes I've ever done. What you say about the tubeless version is downright scary. How bad does a tire have to be to pose a danger to the wheel on install? And even if you had successfully mounted it after 4 hours, there's likely no way you ever would have bought another one.

Sounds like Conti needs to go back to the drawing board on that one.
Yeah, that’s an issue that affects what tires I use.. I rode through a pair of Compass (now Rene Herse) Rat Trap Pass 26ers and really liked how they rode. But they were eventually replaced with Continental Contact Speed 26x2.0 tires because the Continentals are 1000 times easier to install and remove. The RTPs are supposed to be tubeless compatible, so maybe they need to be tighter? I don’t run anything tubeless so I wouldn’t know.

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Originally Posted by livedarklions
I just had to change a tube roadside on a GP5000 today, and can attest it actually was one of the easiest tube changes I've ever done. What you say about the tubeless version is downright scary. How bad does a tire have to be to pose a danger to the wheel on install? And even if you had successfully mounted it after 4 hours, there's likely no way you ever would have bought another one.

Sounds like Conti needs to go back to the drawing board on that one.
A word of warning regarding Continental GP5000 TL tires. – Boyd Cycling
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Originally Posted by 70sSanO
We need that guy who is going to sand his rims to make it easier to mount tires to chime in... lol!

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Just ride 'em with no tires mounted for a few miles on rough pavement. That'll do the trick!
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