toying with selling my super record parts and going to campy 10speed
10-26-11, 11:13 AM
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toying with selling my super record parts and going to campy 10speed
Any thoughts on this? I was looking through a 'dream bike' thread and found my mind wandering, thinking hmm, it sure would be awesome to have a nice older frame with light wheels and a modern campy group... Then I realized it would easily be financially feasible to do this to my colnago provided I sold the existing group. I was going to upgrade the brake levers and calipers on the bike as well as the pedals anyway, maybe I should just go all the way?
10-26-11, 11:20 AM
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It's a slippery slope. You'll end up upgrading the frame as well. Eventually you'll have a completely modern bike and find yourself scanning CL for a vintage Colnago with Super Record again.
(I never had a super record Colnago, but that's basically what I did).
(I never had a super record Colnago, but that's basically what I did).
10-26-11, 11:42 AM
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Depends on what level you are thinking of going to. I don't think you can sell your old Super Record for the price of Centaur or better. Of course, you would then need wheels, too.
Figure $1k+ for a decent setup.
Figure $1k+ for a decent setup.
10-26-11, 11:43 AM
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Super Record is obsolete...no pro racers use it any more.
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10-26-11, 11:45 AM
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my go to ride is a 80's bianchi with campy 10 speed. I'm currently almost done building an 80's Colnago with Campy 9 speed. To me that's the best combination of aesthetics and usability. Old frame, modern drivetrain. Just do it.
I do agree with RHM that you'll find yourself looking for a "nostalgic" sr bike again at some point.
I do agree with RHM that you'll find yourself looking for a "nostalgic" sr bike again at some point.
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10-26-11, 12:19 PM
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Many years ago, I upgraded my Battaglin from Shimano 600 tri-color to Ultegra 8, and then to 9 speed STI. The Batt took to the new parts like a duck takes to water. Eventually, I got a new custom frame and converted the Batt to a single speed. Sold off all the shifty bits to finance other projects. Right now, its been converted back to a 1X7 for early and late season training.
Ironically, I'm just starting a new project which is a Ciocc SLX which I'm going to hang with full Simano 600 tri-color
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10-26-11, 12:39 PM
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It really depends on how much you want to ride the bike.
The SR stuff works ok, but the new stuff is simple and smooth and works.
The Centaur stuff is a LOT of group for the $$$.
I would guess that you would at some time start looking for another C&V bike, lol!!!
Thats just the way it works.
Either way, good luck
The SR stuff works ok, but the new stuff is simple and smooth and works.
The Centaur stuff is a LOT of group for the $$$.
I would guess that you would at some time start looking for another C&V bike, lol!!!
Thats just the way it works.
Either way, good luck
10-26-11, 12:50 PM
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Make sure that the rear axle width will work for newer wheels, ea 130mm. I've converted my Italian steeds to Campy Record 10speeds on my 95 Cinelli Super Corsa, and 91 Gios Compact! Fortunately the rear axle width met the minimum requirements without cold setting the triangle. On my Gios Professional I install Record C with the rear being 8 speed cassette and works without a problem! Once you go in the direction of using STI or Ergo, you'll never look back to friction shifting(a model T) and won't miss the ghost shifting when you lest expect it!
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10-26-11, 02:18 PM
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Doing both is the obvious answer.
I have 9 spd. Campy on Merckx and the rest are 5 or 6 spd. Actually, all but one are 5 spd!
I ride the Merckx when I'm riding with someone that's faster than me and who wants to really ride. Other than that, I ride the others.
I have 9 spd. Campy on Merckx and the rest are 5 or 6 spd. Actually, all but one are 5 spd!
I ride the Merckx when I'm riding with someone that's faster than me and who wants to really ride. Other than that, I ride the others.
10-26-11, 05:52 PM
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10-26-11, 05:59 PM
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Friction is fun for (IMO) getting out riding but once performance (weight, speed of shifting) is concerned, go STI/Ergo. It's as close to think-shift as you can get. I would go used for your parts that way you can afford a full group plus nice wheels. You won't go back.
Then there's modern vs vintage frame fitting. I've found I prefer modern fitting with higher saddles coming from ~equal heights on some vintage steel I've owned in the past. You might want to try it out. You might just sell your whole bike.
Then there's modern vs vintage frame fitting. I've found I prefer modern fitting with higher saddles coming from ~equal heights on some vintage steel I've owned in the past. You might want to try it out. You might just sell your whole bike.
10-26-11, 06:16 PM
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I'd save and wait for a second bike. You can always sell one of them if you find you have a strong preference.
10-26-11, 06:22 PM
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Do ittttt.
I've got Ergos (or STI) on all my bikes now. I run 8s Record, 9s Athena and I've got 10s Chorus on my MX Leader. All is good but the Chorus is definitely the most crisp.
I agree about the risk of not wanting to go back to friction components, I have no desire to ever ride a friction/downtube shifting bike again. But I do love me some vintage frames...
I've got Ergos (or STI) on all my bikes now. I run 8s Record, 9s Athena and I've got 10s Chorus on my MX Leader. All is good but the Chorus is definitely the most crisp.
I agree about the risk of not wanting to go back to friction components, I have no desire to ever ride a friction/downtube shifting bike again. But I do love me some vintage frames...
10-26-11, 06:30 PM
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I'm fairly ambivalent about upgrades.......
84 Turbo, 6-sp Superbe to 9-sp 105 STI
85 Cinelli Equipe, 6-sp NR to 8-sp Chorus Ergo
86 Facet, 6-sp Suntour Sprint to 9-sp 105 STI
87 Ironman, 6-sp 105 to 8-sp Veloce Ergo
88 Ironman, frame to 9-sp Ultegra STI
89 Ironman, 7-sp 600 to 10-sp 105 STI
89 Cinelli SC, frame to new 10-sp Veloce, new wheels
my mtb
88 Raleigh Horizon, 5-sp thumb friction to 6-sp SRAM gripshift
for my brother-in-law
85 Cinelli Equipe, 6-sp NR to 7-sp Chorus to 8-sp Chorus/Record
87 Lemans RS, 6-sp Exage to 3x7 RSX (STI)
for cehowardGS
89 Ironman
for Mrs. Tunes
85 Peugeot mixte, 5-sp Simplex to 8-sp thumb/forefinger SIS
and about a dozen others
84 Turbo, frame to 7-sp RSX STI, sold
86-89 Ironman, to 7 & 8 600, 105, RSX, and even Sora STI, all sold
87 GT Allegre, 6-sp 105 to 7-sp Sora STI, as a favor
I've even tried 10-sp DT shifting (liked it a lot)...
Yeah, I'm fairly ambivalent....could go either way.....NOT.
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84 Turbo, 6-sp Superbe to 9-sp 105 STI
85 Cinelli Equipe, 6-sp NR to 8-sp Chorus Ergo
86 Facet, 6-sp Suntour Sprint to 9-sp 105 STI
87 Ironman, 6-sp 105 to 8-sp Veloce Ergo
88 Ironman, frame to 9-sp Ultegra STI
89 Ironman, 7-sp 600 to 10-sp 105 STI
89 Cinelli SC, frame to new 10-sp Veloce, new wheels
my mtb
88 Raleigh Horizon, 5-sp thumb friction to 6-sp SRAM gripshift
for my brother-in-law
85 Cinelli Equipe, 6-sp NR to 7-sp Chorus to 8-sp Chorus/Record
87 Lemans RS, 6-sp Exage to 3x7 RSX (STI)
for cehowardGS
89 Ironman
for Mrs. Tunes
85 Peugeot mixte, 5-sp Simplex to 8-sp thumb/forefinger SIS
and about a dozen others
84 Turbo, frame to 7-sp RSX STI, sold
86-89 Ironman, to 7 & 8 600, 105, RSX, and even Sora STI, all sold
87 GT Allegre, 6-sp 105 to 7-sp Sora STI, as a favor
I've even tried 10-sp DT shifting (liked it a lot)...
Yeah, I'm fairly ambivalent....could go either way.....NOT.
PM sent.....
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10-26-11, 06:48 PM
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I've been slowly converting most of my "remodeled" modest stable to 8, 9, or 10 speed Campy.
I've got a couple older DA equipped bikes here that will stay, because I am very fond of them.
I love the deals I've found on 10 speed Chorus and Centaur gruppos lately though, and they have turned into the general sweet spot for me.
I do have a vintage Italian bike or two with Gran Sport and Super Record gruppos and they are very nice permanent members here as well.
The one spot I vote against Campy is on my off road bikes, as Deore XT and XTR are the cream for my purposes.
So, I'd vote to keep the Super Record equipped around and save for the modern gruppos.
You might be surprised how fast some flipped bikes add up, and before you know it, you have both in hand.
I've got a couple older DA equipped bikes here that will stay, because I am very fond of them.
I love the deals I've found on 10 speed Chorus and Centaur gruppos lately though, and they have turned into the general sweet spot for me.
I do have a vintage Italian bike or two with Gran Sport and Super Record gruppos and they are very nice permanent members here as well.
The one spot I vote against Campy is on my off road bikes, as Deore XT and XTR are the cream for my purposes.
So, I'd vote to keep the Super Record equipped around and save for the modern gruppos.
You might be surprised how fast some flipped bikes add up, and before you know it, you have both in hand.
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10-26-11, 06:51 PM
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Just the oppostie for me. I sold my only brifter bike (Campy Ergo's) and only have friction left on the road bikes. I haven't really missed it.
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10-26-11, 06:52 PM
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I'm a bit nostalgic for the Campy NR and SR parts I started out with, but not much interest in actually riding it any more.
I've sold most of my vintage stuff and am happily riding new components on my old frames with 130mm wheels jammed in them (along with a CAAD8)
I've sold most of my vintage stuff and am happily riding new components on my old frames with 130mm wheels jammed in them (along with a CAAD8)
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10-26-11, 07:23 PM
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I don't ride the old Campagnolo groups anymore. But I love how they look, and the memories I have being on the road with them.
With that in mind I have stashed away one each complete NR and SR group. Next woodworking project is a lighted display case in the living room showcasing these iconic parts.
Maybe you should hang on to your favorites among the components?
With that in mind I have stashed away one each complete NR and SR group. Next woodworking project is a lighted display case in the living room showcasing these iconic parts.
Maybe you should hang on to your favorites among the components?
10-26-11, 08:43 PM
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