Where Does Your C & V Bike Fit Into Your Collection?
12-14-12, 02:31 PM
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67! Jebus you're a big boy! Well your sorta close maybe I'll see you on it some day.
12-14-12, 02:32 PM
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All my bikes are c+v and I dont ride at all,I just frequent this forum because of my love for classic bikes and their restorations .
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The majority of my miles are put on my vintage road bikes.
In particular, the '85 SR equipped Belgian Hakima for club rides, and '86 Peugeot Triathlon for distances beyond 40 miles. My '73 PX-10 is hanging high at the local bike shop and I think I rode it twice last summer. Last week I picked up my first STI shifting bike, a virtually unused '95 Trek 2300. And yes, I do have a 2012 CF bike, but it is used only when I want to suffer and have fun at the same time.
In particular, the '85 SR equipped Belgian Hakima for club rides, and '86 Peugeot Triathlon for distances beyond 40 miles. My '73 PX-10 is hanging high at the local bike shop and I think I rode it twice last summer. Last week I picked up my first STI shifting bike, a virtually unused '95 Trek 2300. And yes, I do have a 2012 CF bike, but it is used only when I want to suffer and have fun at the same time.
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Consider having Riv add mid-stays from the rear drops all the way to the headtube, it helps break up that massive steerer visually and apparently adds lateral rigidity while not taking away that much vertical compliance. Most of the ride's in the fork, anyway, ATMO.
that would be cool but, well i've ridden the bikes extensively and they are pretty much perfect for me the way they are. i should add as well that i only weigh maybe... 160 or so.
12-14-12, 02:44 PM
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12-14-12, 03:00 PM
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My new bikes and my current C&V bike are used in rotation depending on the ride I have planned. If I'm riding with my friends who ride C&V bikes, I'll be on my C&V bike. I'll also ride my C&V bike when I'm riding solo. I like the feel of a good quality steel bike and will enjoy the ride without any agenda about pace or duration. I often leave the bike computer at home and will ride without a planned route.
Riding a C&V bike is a fun and less pretentious experience for me.
My modern bikes are used with a more determined goal on mind. I have a CF road bike for faster rides and long distance rides where speed and climbing efficiency are paramount. I'm simply faster and more efficient on a modern road bike. If the day is long and the ride is going to be hard, modern bikes have an edge.
I'll also use modern bikes for gravel trails. My C&V road bike is limited to narrow tires and having the right tire really matters on trails. I also find that modern bikes need a little less maintenance and also suffer less from abuse than the C&V bikes that I enjoy using.
Riding a C&V bike is a fun and less pretentious experience for me.
My modern bikes are used with a more determined goal on mind. I have a CF road bike for faster rides and long distance rides where speed and climbing efficiency are paramount. I'm simply faster and more efficient on a modern road bike. If the day is long and the ride is going to be hard, modern bikes have an edge.
I'll also use modern bikes for gravel trails. My C&V road bike is limited to narrow tires and having the right tire really matters on trails. I also find that modern bikes need a little less maintenance and also suffer less from abuse than the C&V bikes that I enjoy using.
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12-14-12, 03:13 PM
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My bikes are primarily cheap bikes I've picked up when the opportunity presented itself. Only one bike came to me new: a 2009 Schwinn Cutter single speed (since converted to a fixie). My next newest bike is a 1994, still relatively modern. Everything else qualifies as C&V, one from the 1960s, one from the 70s and two from the 80s. They have all been modded to my tastes, except for the 1966 Raleigh DL-1; it's hard to upgrade a bike that's got so many oddball features. I am getting new rims but they will be steel Westwoods like the originals were.
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12-14-12, 04:58 PM
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All my bikes are vintage and basically period-correct with DT shifters. For longer rides, the '86 Look gets the most mileage, followed by the '89 Park Pre. For errands and such, I go to the '74 UE-8.
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12-14-12, 05:24 PM
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Love to ride some of my c&v bicycles frequently.
My Zullo Sprint and my De Rosa Professional see a fair amount of action.
The rest?
Not so much.
Everything newer than 1990 around gets ridden constantly though.
Any of mine with ELOS or Spirit frames and Campy Ergo get the lion's share of saddle time.
Definitely due to Campy Ergos and various Campy drivetrains.
...and next season I would anticipate fewer road only hours in general.
Going to spend most of the summer on gravel/fire road combos.
Have a Salsa Fargo ti on order for the rough stuff.
Just picked up a used Bob trailer.
Also, I am sorting through hardtail 29ers.
The Niner Air 9 carbon looks awesome!
...but way too spendy, so I'll seek a cheaper Niner version for our trip to Moab this spring.
We'll see what happens with this though.
....and finally my Croll all arounder project will get tons of saddle time.
It's new bike year for me coming up.
My Zullo Sprint and my De Rosa Professional see a fair amount of action.
The rest?
Not so much.
Everything newer than 1990 around gets ridden constantly though.
Any of mine with ELOS or Spirit frames and Campy Ergo get the lion's share of saddle time.
Definitely due to Campy Ergos and various Campy drivetrains.
...and next season I would anticipate fewer road only hours in general.
Going to spend most of the summer on gravel/fire road combos.
Have a Salsa Fargo ti on order for the rough stuff.
Just picked up a used Bob trailer.
Also, I am sorting through hardtail 29ers.
The Niner Air 9 carbon looks awesome!
...but way too spendy, so I'll seek a cheaper Niner version for our trip to Moab this spring.
We'll see what happens with this though.
....and finally my Croll all arounder project will get tons of saddle time.
It's new bike year for me coming up.
12-14-12, 06:03 PM
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Also... I hope you like the Fargo! I am going to build something similar at UBI in March, but in fillet brazed steel.
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Monday through Friday I am on a modern aluminum commuter. I beat the crap out of it.
On Saturday I ride a modern road bike that is light as a fart.
On Sunday I ride vintage, I only have two.
Monday through Friday is 30 minutes to work, 60 minutes home. Next year I'd like to bump the home trip to 90 minutes.
Saturday and Sunday are 2-3 hour rides. Next year I'd like to get to 3-4 hours.
I also have a vintage city bike but that is for only cruising the neighborhood with family.
On Saturday I ride a modern road bike that is light as a fart.
On Sunday I ride vintage, I only have two.
Monday through Friday is 30 minutes to work, 60 minutes home. Next year I'd like to bump the home trip to 90 minutes.
Saturday and Sunday are 2-3 hour rides. Next year I'd like to get to 3-4 hours.
I also have a vintage city bike but that is for only cruising the neighborhood with family.
12-14-12, 06:15 PM
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I think I'm figuring out why many C&Vers have a hard time trying to like these modern bikes.
It's just that there seems to be so much less bike there to look at towards the rear of the bike. Like looking at an airplane with no tail on it. So much empty airspace behind and in front of the saddle....We tend to focus on the backsloping angle of the top tube, but it's really more the disappearance of so much frame around the seat area that ruins the aesthetics for us..... We might also be botherd by so much unbraced legnth on those seat posts. Goes against all instincts we had to get as much stiffness form our bikes.....maybe that's why they call them "masts" these days....just thinking....
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It's just that there seems to be so much less bike there to look at towards the rear of the bike. Like looking at an airplane with no tail on it. So much empty airspace behind and in front of the saddle....We tend to focus on the backsloping angle of the top tube, but it's really more the disappearance of so much frame around the seat area that ruins the aesthetics for us..... We might also be botherd by so much unbraced legnth on those seat posts. Goes against all instincts we had to get as much stiffness form our bikes.....maybe that's why they call them "masts" these days....just thinking....
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12-14-12, 06:23 PM
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My Surly LHT gets the most miles as that is what I commute on. Next is my Turner 5 Spot for the Wednesday night MTB ride. Beyond that it could be C&V or carbon for a road ride-probably 60/40 C&V/carbon. I just like to ride.
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I think I'm figuring out why many C&Vers have a hard time trying to like these modern bikes.
It's just that there seems to be so much less bike there to look at towards the rear of the bike. Like looking at an airplane with no tail on it. So much empty airspace behind and in front of the saddle....We tend to focus on the backsloping angle of the top tube, but it's really more the disappearance of so much frame around the seat area that ruins the aesthetics for us..... We might also be botherd by so much unbraced legnth on those seat posts. Goes against all instincts we had to get as much stiffness form our bikes.....maybe that's why they call them "masts" these days....just thinking....
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It's just that there seems to be so much less bike there to look at towards the rear of the bike. Like looking at an airplane with no tail on it. So much empty airspace behind and in front of the saddle....We tend to focus on the backsloping angle of the top tube, but it's really more the disappearance of so much frame around the seat area that ruins the aesthetics for us..... We might also be botherd by so much unbraced legnth on those seat posts. Goes against all instincts we had to get as much stiffness form our bikes.....maybe that's why they call them "masts" these days....just thinking....
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12-14-12, 06:45 PM
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Where I did have modern bikes, I have eased them out of the fleet, and replaced them with nicer, vintage bikes.
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12-14-12, 06:46 PM
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Like many others, mine is a C&V-only household. I commute on this 1971 Atala, and take it on the Tuesday Night Smackdown after work. The components are mostly mid-80s, when SunTour was at the top of their game.
I'm not very fast, but I get a lot of credit from the carbon riders for just hanging with the group on a steel bike with fenders.
We also have a 1992 Bridgestone MB-2 road conversion, and a 1989 Santana with a Technomic to compensate for the captain's quarters being too small.
I'm not very fast, but I get a lot of credit from the carbon riders for just hanging with the group on a steel bike with fenders.
We also have a 1992 Bridgestone MB-2 road conversion, and a 1989 Santana with a Technomic to compensate for the captain's quarters being too small.
12-14-12, 06:55 PM
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For me it is how the modern bikes fit in with the vintage ones... the newest bike is an '05 Surly Pugsley and then I have an '01 Rocky Mountain Blizzard.
After that... they are all C&V and one might argue that the Blizzard is also a classic.
After that... they are all C&V and one might argue that the Blizzard is also a classic.
12-14-12, 07:05 PM
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C&V bikes are my collection. I had some newer stuff, but really didn't ride it much. I have a much greater interest in riding a C&V frame with modern parts that riding a modern frame with modern parts. Something about the sloping top tubes just doesn't look right to me.
Thousands of mile each year, all on C&V bikes; be they original or modernized to some degree. There's also something about having the right bike available, a geared for climber, a 52/42 racer with a corncob, a CD, etc. You can do so for pennies on the modern bike $.
Thousands of mile each year, all on C&V bikes; be they original or modernized to some degree. There's also something about having the right bike available, a geared for climber, a 52/42 racer with a corncob, a CD, etc. You can do so for pennies on the modern bike $.
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I think I'm figuring out why many C&Vers have a hard time trying to like these modern bikes.
It's just that there seems to be so much less bike there to look at towards the rear of the bike. Like looking at an airplane with no tail on it. So much empty airspace behind and in front of the saddle....We tend to focus on the backsloping angle of the top tube, but it's really more the disappearance of so much frame around the seat area that ruins the aesthetics for us..... We might also be botherd by so much unbraced legnth on those seat posts. Goes against all instincts we had to get as much stiffness form our bikes.....maybe that's why they call them "masts" these days....just thinking....
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It's just that there seems to be so much less bike there to look at towards the rear of the bike. Like looking at an airplane with no tail on it. So much empty airspace behind and in front of the saddle....We tend to focus on the backsloping angle of the top tube, but it's really more the disappearance of so much frame around the seat area that ruins the aesthetics for us..... We might also be botherd by so much unbraced legnth on those seat posts. Goes against all instincts we had to get as much stiffness form our bikes.....maybe that's why they call them "masts" these days....just thinking....
Chombi
Looks nothing like my 1983 Stumpjumper or my Bob brown ss mtb.
I ride singletrack, narrow woods trails, fire roads, gravel, rocks, ravines etc.
All of the c&v "style" hindrances come unglued.
These babies are the real deal.
Pure adrenaline, pure fun.
It's like skiing in the mountains for the first time after skiing in local river valleys.
Way too much fun for an old guy to pass on.
12-14-12, 08:13 PM
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If I had to ride a modern road bike, I wouldn't ride at all.
(I won't even touch one on a flip.)
(I won't even touch one on a flip.)
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What do you think your primary terrain will be? Honestly, it you want to have the most fun, go full squish with one of the 4" xc offerings.. if you think you're going to ride more trail then get a 5". I love my Giant Anthem X1 29er and honestly Giant has some of the best engineered rear suspension you can buy and the best value for the money. However I can see you are a man of taste, so you may wish to have the more diversified flavour of the Tomac Diplomat.
Also... I hope you like the Fargo! I am going to build something similar at UBI in March, but in fillet brazed steel.
Also... I hope you like the Fargo! I am going to build something similar at UBI in March, but in fillet brazed steel.
The Fargo ti for me will be like having an all terrain vehicle.
Our place near the Canadian border includes dozens of miles of fire roads well into the wilderness.
This area is known as the BWCA and is full on wilderness adventure.
The hardtail 29er presents a real decision for me though.
Most of my friends are doing loads of trail, but they have multiple mtbs.
They just grab a different bicycle for the new terrain.
I just can't afford two atm.
Decision time.
BTW Have fun at UBI. Please post pics when you finish her up!