Dura-Ace 9000: Best Ever!
03-04-15, 04:18 PM
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All my riding partners (5 of them) are on DI2 of one form or another. I've seen all sorts of problems with it, yet my 6800 has never dropped a chain or caused me to stop pedaling and look down at my bike like happens every few rides to one of them.
Maybe it's because I'm a better mechanic. I dunno. Their bikes also make the funniest sound when they are shifting.
Maybe it's because I'm a better mechanic. I dunno. Their bikes also make the funniest sound when they are shifting.
03-04-15, 06:51 PM
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For me nothing compares to the beauty and performance of the DA 9000 group, it's flawless, especially coming off 7900, which I thought was a complete POS compared to 7800 before it. Heck, Ultegra 6800 was better than 7900.
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i owned both 9070 and 9000 bikes, upgraded the 9000 bike to 9070.
The crank has definitely grown on me and I think it's beautiful now.
Wow im surprised! The damn metal piece on the hoods right?
Wow im surprised! The damn metal piece on the hoods right?
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All my riding partners (5 of them) are on DI2 of one form or another. I've seen all sorts of problems with it, yet my 6800 has never dropped a chain or caused me to stop pedaling and look down at my bike like happens every few rides to one of them.
Maybe it's because I'm a better mechanic. I dunno. Their bikes also make the funniest sound when they are shifting.
Maybe it's because I'm a better mechanic. I dunno. Their bikes also make the funniest sound when they are shifting.
Whats funny is, all my riding partners have di2 but 1 who is still on mechanical red22. He has the most problems out of anyone. So far none of the di2 bikes have come across a chain drop or anything that's been noticeable aside from 1 time where the fd no longer shifted due to a low battery.
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Whats funny is, all my riding partners have di2 but 1 who is still on mechanical red22. He has the most problems out of anyone. So far none of the di2 bikes have come across a chain drop or anything that's been noticeable aside from 1 time where the fd no longer shifted due to a low battery.
Why am I not surprised?
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03-05-15, 05:37 AM
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Chainrings are dam expensive though.
Also find DA derailleurs to shift wonderfully.
Too bad DA shifters feel like a wood fence. In fact, hard to know why they even bother to cover up the plastic shifter bodies with thick, high durometer rubber which offer no padding. Owners can remove the hard rubber covers and realize a weight savings with no change in feel...lol. After Shimano released DA 7900 which arguably is the worst 10s groupset ever created, they had a real chance for atonement with Campy being out there with 11s Ultrashift since 2009. All Shimano had to do is reverse engineer the Campy shifters to ensure the same ergonomic milestones were met including radii, shift lever concavity for positive finger registration and hood force/deflection. The milestone design had been out for 4 years and Shimano still couldn't come within a country mile of Campy's shifters. None of this discipline was designed into DA9000. Every engineer that worked for Shimano from the chief engineer down should be fired. They completely suck.
By contrast, Sram Red since it was released, every design iteration has noted improvement. Red 22 is the best so far. Ergonomics including shift performance are only second to Campy. Pretty impressive for the new comer compared to Campy with 80 years of design lineage. Campy's shifters way back in 2009 were a water shed of design. Shimano has no excuse with the benchmark being available for many years...none.
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"Two years, over 10,000 miles, one conclusion: Shimano’s Dura-Ace 9000 mechanical group is the best human-powered drivetrain the world has ever seen."
The article is scientifically meaningless. It is just an opinion based on an experience with a single instance of one groupset and has no statistical significance whatsoever.
The article is scientifically meaningless. It is just an opinion based on an experience with a single instance of one groupset and has no statistical significance whatsoever.
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"Two years, over 10,000 miles, one conclusion: Shimano’s Dura-Ace 9000 mechanical group is the best human-powered drivetrain the world has ever seen."
The article is scientifically meaningless. It is just an opinion based on an experience with a single instance of one groupset and has no statistical significance whatsoever.
The article is scientifically meaningless. It is just an opinion based on an experience with a single instance of one groupset and has no statistical significance whatsoever.
03-05-15, 07:12 AM
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"Two years, over 10,000 miles, one conclusion: Shimano’s Dura-Ace 9000 mechanical group is the best human-powered drivetrain the world has ever seen."
The article is scientifically meaningless. It is just an opinion based on an experience with a single instance of one groupset and has no statistical significance whatsoever.
The article is scientifically meaningless. It is just an opinion based on an experience with a single instance of one groupset and has no statistical significance whatsoever.
