Greatestalltime

People that weren't into bikes or lacked knowledge about them would laugh that you think there's a difference between Walmart bikes and high end bikes.

You're only laughing on the outside

reef58

I have been around lots of great photographers, and most of them couldn't care less about sharpness of lenses past a point. Their number one priority is light, subject matter and composition. I don't care about DXO, and am not an optics geek. I know a bit about them, and I called you on your BS not because I care, but because you were being a jerk to another poster and claim some technical superiority based on your eyes, but that is BS. Now you run along with your bionic eyes, and put them to use.

Noctilux.95

Glass (optics) superiority only matters when it comes to your eyes, always! I have Sigma Art glass that tests off the chart yet looks blah on a large screen. So yes, you can tell the superiority of glass by site alone, not some geek written chart or software that you and your fan boy subscribe to. Not interested in doing optics measuerbating that gets your approval. So run along now.

f4rrest

Why do people with a shared interest end up being mean to each other?

Nachoman

Or worse!

reef58

Again certainly no fanboy, I don't have any software. I have no charts and I don't really care. My favorite lens is a Canon 24-105, which will certainly win no sharpness contests. You were being a jerk and arrogant. There is a big difference between camera lenses and telescopes vs comparing high end non magnified eyeglasses. I am not going to argue that fact with you, but any difference between high end manufacturers of cycling glasses will be subtle at best barring a defect. That is a fact. I am done with you and this thread as I have highjacked the crap out of it. If you are going to be rude when someone asks you a question at least have a legitimate reply.

Good day sir

reef58

It is the internet man. Nature of the beast I guess.

Myspokeisabroke

There is some great advice here, some good questions, and a lot of ego BS. In another place, there is a forum or blog or web page dedicated to optics, light, transmission, propagation, and human eyeballs. Testing and results by a qualified individual with data. I found one long ago regarding hunting rifle scopes. Zeiss, Nightforce, Swarovski, then Leopold and Vortex. Then all the cheap crap that works but is inferior. So far, this thread sure ain't it.

Noctilux.95

Oh poor you. Stop playing a victim. All I said was the optics in my new POC glasses were superior to my Oakleys. I own both and the contrast in the POC Zeiss optics looks much better than my Oakleys. Do I have your permission to say that? What followed was some dude named Noodle Soup asked for proof. I replied the proof was in my eyes to which he countered with a laughing emoji. To my eyes is arrogant? Really? I need scientific testing to remark on the optics of cycling glasses? BTW this Noodle S*** had also attacked me on previous post regarding purchasing high end groupset from the UK. He works at an LBS and doesn't like someone posting good deals that are online. Explains a lot.

smarkinson

Yesterday I was just riding along when some little kid riding the other way waved and said "Hi" and "I'm wearing sunglasses too". Honestly, what's the point in me buying genuine Oakleys if some little kid with his $5 sunglasses can't tell the difference?

PS in before the lock. Been a while since we've had one of those hasn't it?

dim

I have Julbo Bivouak Sunglasses (Cameleon) sunglasses ..... I found these on a cyclepath.... highly regarded by mountaineers and people who ski

Brilliant, and never fogs up as it has slots in the lenses .... fits perfect as you can bend the earpiece parts to suit

It's category 2-4



if I lose or damage them, I will buy anoither pair

reef58

In that case perhaps I erred. I did not know you had history with him.

I actually laughed at the eyes remark myself. I thought it was funny.

The arrogant part was the list of lenses ect, run along pissy boy, but dead horse, over and done. Sounds like the guy is antagonizing you. Had no idea. Excuse my shorthand as too much time devoted to this thread.

noodle soup

Stop playing the victim.

I attacked you? Oh poor you.

FTR, I do not work at a LBS(or work for Oakley).

RShantz

This one really interests me. Does anyone have suggestions? It's brutal on mt descents when you go from full sun into a fully shaded turn. Around here it's fairly common to find gravel & larger stones on mt roads.

longbeachgary

It's not the visual inspection that matters. What matters is when you're hit in the glasses by a rock and the cheap glasses show why they are cheap glasses. My eyes are worth the "real" Oakleys.

Myspokeisabroke

What is " category 2-4" ?

draganm

no intention of joining the "optical quality" war but is no one here bothered by the peripheral vision, as in "complete lack thereof" , from the cycling branded or general "sporting type sunglasses" catering to athletes? I just have a hard time with the need to turn my head 130 degree's to see the cement truck bearing down on me when I can see it with a quick glance thru cheap frame-less style glasses.
I've tried a a few different "cycling advertised brands" and they all feel like this.









I know this will probably lead to endless ridicule, but I really like these a lot, 3M outdoor safety glasses from Home Depot $6.50

Marcus_Ti

3 words: bar end mirror.

I wore Mike Homes branded safety sunglasses for a while. The 3M ones are nothing to frown at.

draganm

Certainly not averse to trying one, especially now with so many selfish A-holes texting and driving on the shoulder. Bar end mirror could be a life saver if you don't hear that quiet , aerodynimic car coming up behind, with you lined up on the license plate
is there one you can recommend. Light, sturdy, affordable?

Marcus_Ti

Sprintech's is my favorite. Have them for both my dropbar bikes.

https://www.amazon.com/Sprintech-Roa.../dp/B01N33V0PC

You can also get left-hand only. They're not cheap, but they hold adjustment well and the optics aren't too bad (plastic reflector-so you don't need worry about shattering it.

For awareness of traffic NVM tinnitus, CatEars are also the bomb as well.

tmh657

I ordered some Oakley's a few years ago from what looked like the real website. I got them in the mail. They were "Oakeys" and not even worth the postage. I got scammed and no recourse. I called the CC company. Charges were reversed.

dim

Cat 0 lenses are either clear or have a very light tint, they are used for safety glasses or spectacles where you need to see clearly what you are doing.

Cat 1 lenses are for casual use, used as a comfort filter in cosmetic and fashion eyewear.

Cat 2 lenses are the most common category to be found in sunglasses, for general use they provide good protection from visible light and from UV rays. This lens will have a tint which allows through less light than category 1 but more light than category 3 ( General Purpose, watching and taking part in sport)

Cat 3 - Provide extra protection from both visible and UV light. These lenses will usually only allow less than 20% of visible light to penetrate the lens. This means that they will block out 80%+ of light. (Open mountain ranges)

Cat 4 - Provide a high level of protection from visible and UV light. These lenses are not to be worn when driving as they are too dark. These lenses will allow less than 10% of light to transmit through the lens. They are to be used for specific situations only - not for a pair of everyday sunglasses. (High altitude trekking and mountaineering.)


so ..... ideally, you want lenses that automatically cover/adjust from category 2 through to category 4 (like the Julbo sunglasses)

Myspokeisabroke

Thanks Dim !! I haven't noticed the ratings on eyeware so I'll look closer. About ready to get a good pair of eye for myself and GF.

noodle soup

Nonsense.

Transition lenses are great if light conditions change slowly, or if you aren't moving at a high rate of speed. They suck for fast descents with rapidly changing lighting.

dim

it's photochromic lenses


these are on my wish list

https://www.julbo.com/en/10/news/why...asses_738.html

and saying that, I have an old pair of Serengetti Drivers (with the brownish Corning Glass lenses) .... I paid a lot of money for these 15 years ago and they are brilliant for cycling long distance (they fog up for commutes though ... short rides where you start and stop often)

The new Serengetti lenses are now made of plastic .... my daughter has a pair for driving, and they are crap compared to my old pair