50voltphantom

https://handsomecycles.com/products/fredward-frameset

Ok, so on paper it's sort of a generic double-butted cro-mo 120mm spaced Nature Boy and the fork from a Cross-Check.

The things I really like about this frame (other than the price) are:
steel
120mm spacing so I can swap wheels between it and my Steamroller
awesome green color
little-to-no branding
brazed-on rear cable stop, which I prefer to bolt-on hangers
geometry should play well with any 'standard' carbon canti fork if I decide to go there

Cons:
3-speed and coaster braze-ons (coaster tab would get removed, for sure)
not light (but neither is my Surly)

Anyone here ever ride one?

SquidPuppet

It has a pump nipple on the head tube too.

Buy TWO!!!

Carcosa

I'll talk you out of the green one.

Get it in pink.

JeremyLC

cantilever brakes suck. . .so, build it with linear pull brakes instead.

johnnytheboy

depends on which canti and/or the setup

JeremyLC

Fine, then. When I finally replace all the parts* on my Surly (later this week, I hope), I'll bring it to you personally if it still squeals.


*) everything but the headset, fork, wheels, saddle, and seat collar.

Wspsux

wheres the geometry

50voltphantom

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/09...51832733047710

EDIT: Geo-wise, it's very close to a Nature Boy it seems, which is cool because those are basically the two frames I'm debating between right now. The finish on the NB is a little nicer but damn if I don't love the green on the Fredward. My hang-up is that it might ride like a turd for reasons the specs can't explain whereas a NB is designed for SSCX.

50voltphantom

If it was more of a hot pink I'd consider it.

Wspsux

dont get it, you'll get aids and die

seau grateau

Meh.

IAmSam

Does anybody remember the guy here a few years back who had a Handsome Devil? He would go on & on about how fantastic his bike was...

Scottybigs 

With all those braze-ons, it kind of looks like you could build a pretty cool fixed gear touring bike with wide tires+fenders. Although, you'd be up against the Soma Wolverine, which allows a little more versatility with its rear dropouts.

50voltphantom

Yeah, I found that in my searches. I haven't really seen any bad comments.

JeremyLC

Do they mention where they got the name "Fredward"? I have a theory...

(this whole movie is awesome)

johnnytheboy

the coaster tab and cable guides (for an internal hub) kinda ruin it for me.

50voltphantom

I hear ya.

veganbikes

I dig the bike minus the tabs and guides for an IGH. I like cantis and the green is a decent utilitarian type color.

However if I were going SS/FG Cross type bike I would stick with what I got or go with a Nature Boy which is much cleaner and they come coated on the inside which makes for quicker building (no framesaver required).

If I wanted a IGH set up I would go with something with a 135mm spacing, better options on that front.

cs1

REDMASTA

looks like a toad. think it's all the tabs and braze-ons, they really went wild.

JeremyLC

You really dug up a two year old thread to bag on me for having noisy cantis? Really?

mouse

cs1

IAmSam

If you look at the personalizations under "Thread Starter" 50voltphantom's, name - you can see that he did go ahead and buy the frameset in question. So if you are serious about it - you might search deeper here to see if he ever posted what he thinks of it, or...and I'm just brainstorming here...ask him

50voltphantom

Hey all. Most here know I bought it. I've raced it two seasons so far, rides great. No regrets as I wanted a SSCX capable frame that I could swap wheels between it and my Steamroller. The new ones are now ED coated internally (like Surly, All City.) The stock fork now has a 55mm rake instead of 45. If you're careful you can easily cut the majority of coaster tab off with a hacksaw and you forget it was ever there. There's a handful of them on sale on eBay for under $400 right now.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Handsome-Fr...E_OchG92Ets9TA

https://www.pedalroom.com/bike/hands...ard-sscx-34312