Tipping mechanics
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Tipping mechanics
Hey guys, I ride a lot and break bikes a lot. Today, I went to the bike shop, and a guy who I consider a master at aligning gears (when the chain is dropping and the derailleurs need adjusting) was looking at my bikes. We were finishing the transaction, and I commented to him that I thought he was a wizard with aligning gears, and he was a little taken aback but said “you can always buy me a coke” or something along those lines.
what do you guys tip your wrench? I feel like I should def have something in addition to money to tip with when I come to pick up my bike. He is cool as hell and definitely deserves more than a Coca Cola. He wasn’t asking for cocain surely right?
what do you guys tip your wrench? I feel like I should def have something in addition to money to tip with when I come to pick up my bike. He is cool as hell and definitely deserves more than a Coca Cola. He wasn’t asking for cocain surely right?
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The problem with tipping is that it can be a slippery slope, from something nice but totally unnecessary to something that is considered an entitlement. I live and travel in places where tipping is not expected or considered rude or perturbing of the peace. In Japan, when I didn't have exact change for the street car fare, I waved to the conductor to keep the change. But no, he stopped the street car, got out of his seat and gave me my exact change in coins which was a pittance, really. I like it that way.
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When the mech saves you a BUNCH of time, tip them.
$5 minimum.
I consider my time very valuable (at least $100/hr), so if you save me an hour, you're getting a percentage. (min 20%)
There's also a Rude fee that deducts from the time saving fee.
You save time or effort, the least you can do is buy them a beer (or appropriate beverage/snack)
If money's tight, don't worry about it.
$5 minimum.
I consider my time very valuable (at least $100/hr), so if you save me an hour, you're getting a percentage. (min 20%)
There's also a Rude fee that deducts from the time saving fee.
You save time or effort, the least you can do is buy them a beer (or appropriate beverage/snack)
If money's tight, don't worry about it.
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You should not feel obligated to tip a mechanic, except maybe the student working part time, probably for minimum wage. Otherwise, he's a professional earning a wage, and not counting on tips.
If you want to tip, save it for when he does something above and beyond. Or maybe, bring a coke on a hot afternoon, or coffee in the AM.
IMO tipping skilled workers can be insulting, reminding them of wealth disparity, reminiscent of aristocrats tipping the shoeshine boy.
I still remember when I made the mistake of tipping a cabbie in Taipei. I was blasted to a long, loud invective in a language I didn't understand, but got the point.
If you want to tip, save it for when he does something above and beyond. Or maybe, bring a coke on a hot afternoon, or coffee in the AM.
IMO tipping skilled workers can be insulting, reminding them of wealth disparity, reminiscent of aristocrats tipping the shoeshine boy.
I still remember when I made the mistake of tipping a cabbie in Taipei. I was blasted to a long, loud invective in a language I didn't understand, but got the point.
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As a former long term wrench (40 years) there is only one person I accepted a tip from. His name was Gary Nichols. I truly liked him and we had the same attitude towards bikes and bike maintenance. Outside of that I did not want to be beholden to anyone because with tips comes expectations. As for wealth disparity and aristocrats, that's quite the word salad.
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I generally don't tip. Except when it's out-of-the-way good and has been clearly earned.
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Beverages and snacks are almost always appreciated. Nothing beats good old fashioned money though - most people who work with their hands, especially at bike shop wages, are not too proud to accept an actual cash tip. Just my two cents.
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No, I do not tip mechanics at the basic shop. I have been known to tip at the local nonprofit coop and bike kitchens kinds of places.
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Dot’s pretzels as a tip for the win.
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With the **** wages mechanics make, any extra money as a tip helps. Otherwise beer is probably the most common choice. Best practice is to ask what they would prefer, I know my day wouldn't be improved by a gift of horribly bitter IPA, while plenty of other wrenches would be quite excited. And some don't drink at all.
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I am going to say that tipping is a North American thing. Entry level employees are paid poverty wages and expected to make up the difference by somehow enticing customers to make an additional payment. When I travel to Europe, a tip is a small amount because the people who serve me are well paid, it is just a small thank you. A euro on the table is a thank you, 20 euros is an insult
Part of that is because almost anywhere minimum wage for tipped employees is much less than for hourly paid workers
Part of that is because almost anywhere minimum wage for tipped employees is much less than for hourly paid workers
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I will agree that tipping culture is terrible and toxic in many cases but unfortunately it is the case in the U.S. as much as we would all love to be in Japan and get exact change and people are paid and treated better and all of that great stuff we are not there.
I don't mind getting a tip for good work and usually I share that tip with my staff or co-workers depending on my position. In the end some drinks on a hot day is quite nice or cash is fine or vegan baked goods are especially nice. Once a guy gave me a bottle of $250 wine which I still have and can't really do much with.
I think going crazy with a tip over small stuff can be a little insulting but if I can buy lunch for my co-workers or give that money to a worthy charity or something it isn't so bad.
I grew up in America so tipping is just normal but yeah figuring out how much to tip is ridiculous and knowing all the rules is tough so if we could go to a tipless society that would be cool or tipping because you want to tip not because it is sort of the need for employees and is looked down upon if you don't.
Heck in the summer time someone comes in the clutch with a nice cold Virgil's Cream Soda or Root Beer or a Maine Root Blueberry Soda and I am happy happy happy. That stuff is so good.
I don't mind getting a tip for good work and usually I share that tip with my staff or co-workers depending on my position. In the end some drinks on a hot day is quite nice or cash is fine or vegan baked goods are especially nice. Once a guy gave me a bottle of $250 wine which I still have and can't really do much with.
I think going crazy with a tip over small stuff can be a little insulting but if I can buy lunch for my co-workers or give that money to a worthy charity or something it isn't so bad.
I grew up in America so tipping is just normal but yeah figuring out how much to tip is ridiculous and knowing all the rules is tough so if we could go to a tipless society that would be cool or tipping because you want to tip not because it is sort of the need for employees and is looked down upon if you don't.
Heck in the summer time someone comes in the clutch with a nice cold Virgil's Cream Soda or Root Beer or a Maine Root Blueberry Soda and I am happy happy happy. That stuff is so good.
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I have tipped on occasion for a job well done or expedited immediately.
How is this any different than getting a gift card for being the employee of the month from your manager?
Small shops have few perks.
Bringing in burritos at lunch time brings good will capital in the future.
Providing a box for free for shipping deserves a return favor.
Giving me a free discarded seat post for my MTB was greatly appreciated.
I imagine folks that work as mechs get a rash of $#!^ undeservingly from irate customers, I would rather be the guy that is seen as kind and appreciative.
How is this any different than getting a gift card for being the employee of the month from your manager?
Small shops have few perks.
Bringing in burritos at lunch time brings good will capital in the future.
Providing a box for free for shipping deserves a return favor.
Giving me a free discarded seat post for my MTB was greatly appreciated.
I imagine folks that work as mechs get a rash of $#!^ undeservingly from irate customers, I would rather be the guy that is seen as kind and appreciative.
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The difference is that it's owner/manager's job to pay their employees. The more you normalize tipping the more the tips become expected and then required, until all mechanics' wages are dependent on goodwill of strangers instead of regular paychecks. On the plus side I'm sure business owners will pass those savings onto you
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I probably fail to tip a lot of different people that I should. The dental hygienist? Toll booth operators? Where does it end?
Four years a bit shop employee/mechanic, only got one "tip" when a customer gave me a couple of tickets to something, maybe a concert or sporting event (maybe he just did not want to go?)
That said, the place where I get my car serviced saves me a lot of money versus the dealer, very friendly, small place so it's 100% always the same people. Last month, when the office guy was totaling up the bill, I said to put another $25 on it "I'm paying for pizza today". I do not plan to do that every time.
Four years a bit shop employee/mechanic, only got one "tip" when a customer gave me a couple of tickets to something, maybe a concert or sporting event (maybe he just did not want to go?)
That said, the place where I get my car serviced saves me a lot of money versus the dealer, very friendly, small place so it's 100% always the same people. Last month, when the office guy was totaling up the bill, I said to put another $25 on it "I'm paying for pizza today". I do not plan to do that every time.
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I used to bring a passel of big chocolate chip cookies in the AM when the shop opened, and seemed to get a lot of traction from them, and occasionally tip a gift card to Starbucks.
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I did tip an auto mechanic once. I was changing shocks on a minivan. I compressed the coil spring to get everything apart, but then lost confidence in the spring not killing me. Took the parts to the shop in a paper bag with my diy story. They obviously had a better spring compressor and did it lickity split. They charged me $20. I insisted they take $40. They said they admired me for knowing my limitations and seeking help.
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The difference is that it's owner/manager's job to pay their employees. The more you normalize tipping the more the tips become expected and then required, until all mechanics' wages are dependent on goodwill of strangers instead of regular paychecks. On the plus side I'm sure business owners will pass those savings onto you
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I am going to say that tipping is a North American thing. Entry level employees are paid poverty wages and expected to make up the difference by somehow enticing customers to make an additional payment. When I travel to Europe, a tip is a small amount because the people who serve me are well paid, it is just a small thank you. A euro on the table is a thank you, 20 euros is an insult
Part of that is because almost anywhere minimum wage for tipped employees is much less than for hourly paid workers
Part of that is because almost anywhere minimum wage for tipped employees is much less than for hourly paid workers
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Never tipped but was known to drop off a six pack of Fat Tire now and then
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The key difference is that a service charge is fixed and mandatory, while a tip is variable at the discretion of the patron, and voluntary even if customary.
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I think in the US that tipping is becoming more and more a gray area but always appreciated and I always check the customs in other countries such as tipping the people that clean your hotel room is common elsewhere.