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Old 10-21-23, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
I was disappointed to learn that Clif Bar is discontinuing their Clif Shots, which have been filling up my jersey pockets for decades.

I guess that's what happens when a good company gets bought out by the corporation that makes Cadbury candies.

I just bought out the last of their mocha flavor from Clif Bar website.

Got any recommendations for other decent gels?
Some Clif Bar ingredients that can be BAD are the common allergens of soy and wheat. People that have sensitivities to these grains can suffer stomach ache , diarrhea, headaches or rashes & maybe even suicidal thoughts. Also> 24 grams of sugar per bar. Annnnnd If you have gut bacteria balance issues be advised.

Clif Bars contain soy protein isolate a substance that is made from defatted soybean by a process that leaves it devoid of any nutritional value. . Soy intake has also been linked to breast cancer ......... so a banana & almonds &or an apple is probably better
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Old 10-21-23, 09:17 PM
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Looks like a zombie thread has been revived, and so, late to the party, I'll add my $0.02.

Chews vs. gels: I use both. I like chews better because they aren't as messy, they are more pleasant to eat, and I can titrate different amounts depending on need or mood. Nobody in their right mind ever eats half a gel and puts the rest back in their pocket. Yuck. But I also carry gels for a few reasons, including having some variety, they come with more caffeine (some of them do, anyway), and chews get hard and difficult to manage in my mouth when they are cold.

I wish there was a way to dispense the gels without getting my hands sticky.

Brands: For gels, I prefer Hammer Espresso. 50 mg of caffeine. A little shot of sweet coffee and I'm rock and rolling.... For chews, Probar Bolt. gluten free (I'm celiac...) and tasty. I think the Clif Shot Bloks are also GF, but I the Probars taste better IMHO.
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Originally Posted by MinnMan
Nobody in their right mind ever eats half a gel and puts the rest back in their pocket.

I wish there was a way to dispense the gels without getting my hands sticky.
Both problems are solved with a bulk bottle of gel and a small gel flask.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Both problems are solved with a bulk bottle of gel and a small gel flask.
I'm not familiar with the product.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Both problems are solved with a bulk bottle of gel and a small gel flask.
Or simply put the gel in your mouth instead of on your fingers.
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Old 10-22-23, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MinnMan
I'm not familiar with the product.
Check the Hammer website. I think they might send one for free if you order the bulk gel.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
That's some super useful input, right there.
Originally Posted by RH Clark
It might be super useful to examine the reasons why more critically.
Reasons for what?
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Old 10-22-23, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Reasons for what?
Psychological reasons for Wolfchild's posts.
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I'm sorry the Clif Shots have gone away. The Double Expresso variety, with 100mg caffeine, are great for bike-overnites, when I don't want to pack any equipment for making coffee. I down the contents of one pouch before heading out on the return and I am good to go.
And I will miss the Litter Leash. Genius!
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I have been saving my last few Chocolate-Cherry with the 100mg of Crack added.
Might donate them to The Smithsonian in due time.
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Originally Posted by MinnMan
Psychological reasons for Wolfchild's posts.
Is there some mystery? I hadn't thought so.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I was just looking at the Clif site, and AFAIK, Clif Shots are not discontinued. Just some of the flavors. Am I missing something?
From their website:
We are discontinuing our CLIF SHOT Energy Gels products after May 1st. We recommend using promo code BLOKS23 to try CLIF BLOKS, which provide quick energy for athletes, at 15% off. Shop now.
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If you've ever been in a plant that makes the base materials for these "heath" bar type things... you may never eat one again. I've spent some time in these converted dog food factories - yep, converted dog food factories - big ole slurry's of soy crap mixed with who knows what...

I've not tried the Cliff gels, but if I eat more than one bar on a long ride - stomach cramps are sure to follow.
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Packaged food is made in a food processing plant?!?!
I always thought grandpa Clif was baking a fresh batch of bars in his alpine lodge each morning.
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Originally Posted by Jughed
If you've ever been in a plant that makes the base materials for these "heath" bar type things... you may never eat one again. I've spent some time in these converted dog food factories - yep, converted dog food factories - big ole slurry's of soy crap mixed with who knows what...

I've not tried the Cliff gels, but if I eat more than one bar on a long ride - stomach cramps are sure to follow.
LOL, We bought this bacon flavored treat for our lab once, and you would think it was crack the way he reacted to it, even started having seizures after that, had to try some, and it had similar effects to whippets or huffing (so I hear)....
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Originally Posted by Jughed
If you've ever been in a plant that makes the base materials for these "heath" bar type things... you may never eat one again. I've spent some time in these converted dog food factories - yep, converted dog food factories - big ole slurry's of soy crap mixed with who knows what...

I've not tried the Cliff gels, but if I eat more than one bar on a long ride - stomach cramps are sure to follow.
The science and technology behind modern food ingredients is less than appetizing to be sure. Minnesota is a world center (home to General Mills, Cargill, ADM has a large presence, etc.).
OTOH, "converted dog food factories" is just needless dramatization. Even if true in a few cases, it doesn't really matter to the current production what the former use was. They all pass USDA inspection.
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Originally Posted by MinnMan
The science and technology behind modern food ingredients is less than appetizing to be sure. Minnesota is a world center (home to General Mills, Cargill, ADM has a large presence, etc.).
OTOH, "converted dog food factories" is just needless dramatization. Even if true in a few cases, it doesn't really matter to the current production what the former use was. They all pass USDA inspection.
The only reason some of these things pass USDA or FDA is because of lobbyists. I have zero trust in our regulation administrations. It is up to every individual to closely examine what they are consuming IMHO.
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Originally Posted by RH Clark
The only reason some of these things pass USDA or FDA is because of lobbyists. I have zero trust in our regulation administrations. It is up to every individual to closely examine what they are consuming IMHO.
reductio ad absurdum
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[QUOTE=MinnMan;23052916]reductio ad absurdum[/QUOTE
How silly of me. I meant to say that we should have complete trust in all our government agencies. Whatever they say is true and any contrary opinion is misinformation.
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[QUOTE=RH Clark;23053001]
Originally Posted by MinnMan
reductio ad absurdum[/QUOTE
How silly of me. I meant to say that we should have complete trust in all our government agencies. Whatever they say is true and any contrary opinion is misinformation.
thanks for proving my point.

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[QUOTE=MinnMan;23053015]
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thanks for proving my point.

enuf.
It would have been better to have simply stated your point, rather than attacking me because I suggested everyone not trust the motives or even competency of any agency that has been admittedly wrong many times, and historically corrupt. Instead, they should take complete responsibility upon themselves to "Know" what they are consuming, in order to make logical choices. What an absurd thing to say.
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This thread seems to be veering off into food politics.

Meanwhile, my hoard of Clif Shots is growing smaller by the day.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
Meanwhile, my hoard of Clif Shots is growing smaller by the day.
I cracked open a new box from my stash, recently. I'm down to 3 boxes in reserve.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
This thread seems to be veering off into food politics.
When it comes to food politics, I'm an anarchist.
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