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If you dont mind, how much were those tires from Specialized? I'm thinking the reason why the local B&M stores don't carry the sought after tires is likely due to cost to stock them & unlikely event they will sell for the price they'd stick them up for. Which, shouldn't be the primary reason, but it is what it is with things.
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I am really liking the Specialized T2/T5 S-Works Turbo 2Bliss 30s. They end up over 32 on my Zipp Firecrests but now that they have the new Mondo or whatever, I'll try those for the winter. Oddly, the Mondos do not come in the 30mm size. The 28s swell up to 30+ though and the 32s swell up to 34+.
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Anyway, this season I’ve been on the successor to the Power Road, the Power Cup, and it’s definitely a greatly improved tire. The Power Cups are lively, supple, and connected; I did a few rainy rides with them in the hills back in spring, and they were flawless. They continue to be into the summer, so I’m really confident on these tires.
Long story short: give Michelin Power Cup a try!
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Vittoria N.EXT 30mm TLR
Just broke 200 miles and looks like I'll be sticking with these tires. Mounting and seating the tires didn't require any special tools. But I will add I haven't had any issues seating past and current tubeless tires with my Milwaukee M18 inflator. I currently have the tires inflated at 65 F / 70 R on a Vision 30 Team DB wheelset and the ride has been a pleasant surprise. Even though these tires are constructed with a nylon casing, the ride is very supple and comfortable, rolls smoothly and grips quite well even when swooping into corners.
Just broke 200 miles and looks like I'll be sticking with these tires. Mounting and seating the tires didn't require any special tools. But I will add I haven't had any issues seating past and current tubeless tires with my Milwaukee M18 inflator. I currently have the tires inflated at 65 F / 70 R on a Vision 30 Team DB wheelset and the ride has been a pleasant surprise. Even though these tires are constructed with a nylon casing, the ride is very supple and comfortable, rolls smoothly and grips quite well even when swooping into corners.
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I'm about 10 days/400 miles in to a set of Vittoria Corsa NEXT, too. My impressions pretty much line up with primov8's, so far; they mounted/seated easily, hold air very well, are pretty damn grippy (haven't ridden them in the rain, yet), and are also pretty supple.
In comparison to some of my recent tires, I'd say that they're definitely more comfy than the Power Roads and the Pirelli P-Zero. In the dry, they're about as grippy as the P-Zero, which were absolutely glued to the road (well, in the dry - in the wet, the P-Zero can be a little scary). It's been too long since I've ridden the Schwalbe Pro One Evo, but my impression is that the Vittoria are a little more grippy, a little less supple, but both are really, really good tires. Oh, the Vittoria do hold an advantage over the Schwalbe, for me, in that they stay bead-locked to hookless rims when deflated, which makes maintenance easier.
This makes me look forward to trying the Corsa Pro Control next, which should be more supple, though less durable.
In comparison to some of my recent tires, I'd say that they're definitely more comfy than the Power Roads and the Pirelli P-Zero. In the dry, they're about as grippy as the P-Zero, which were absolutely glued to the road (well, in the dry - in the wet, the P-Zero can be a little scary). It's been too long since I've ridden the Schwalbe Pro One Evo, but my impression is that the Vittoria are a little more grippy, a little less supple, but both are really, really good tires. Oh, the Vittoria do hold an advantage over the Schwalbe, for me, in that they stay bead-locked to hookless rims when deflated, which makes maintenance easier.
This makes me look forward to trying the Corsa Pro Control next, which should be more supple, though less durable.
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I’m really loving the Corsa Pro TLR. Have about 500 miles on them so far and even in a 32 they’re fast and supple. I’ll buy them again when this pair wears out.
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One I wear out these Specialized Turbo T2/T5s (which I really like) I have four ENVE SES tires to go through. Then I will venture out again and may try the Vittoria's.
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I'm about 100 miles into a pair of Corsa Pro 26s. I like them a lot, but I wish I could fit 28s on my bike. I've been using GP5000TLs for a while, and they've been very good. I like the Corsa Pros a little better. The supple casing is sublime,
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You'll have to report back with mileage and any notes on durability. I usually get about 3k miles (per rear tire) out of the top-end daily drivers (IOW, not TT or RDO tires) and don't know if I'd be happy with less than 2k or so... unless they were really sublime, maybe.
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What kind of mileage do you usually get? I think that I tend to be tough on tires, mileage wise. I see a lot of people say that they get 5k out of a tire, but I don't know that I've ever gotten much more than 3500, even when running them down to the cords.
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That's high. I get 2000-2500km (1200-1500mi) out of a rear Schwalbe Pro One tire. I could probably stretch it and roll another 500 to 1000kms, but they square off and behave differently. It's 50% less than their claimed 4000-5000km lifespan (front one does it though), and yes, they are properly inflated (70PSI for 28mm at my weight).
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That's high. I get 2000-2500km (1200-1500mi) out of a rear Schwalbe Pro One tire. I could probably stretch it and roll another 500 to 1000kms, but they square off and behave differently. It's 50% less than their claimed 4000-5000km lifespan (front one does it though), and yes, they are properly inflated (70PSI for 28mm at my weight).
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I roll at 240lbs and get about 1.5k-1.8k miles out of a rear tire. I ride aggressively, though, and could almost certainly coax more miles out if I were easier on the tires. I’ve been road tubeless 10+ years now, though, so I don’t remember the old standard.
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I’m currently a little heavy for me at 177. Most of my tires I get between 3-3500 before the back is worn out.
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Once the tire squares off, prone to flats, has a few noticeable slices, or is past the wear indicators, I'll toss on a new tire...
usually annually I'm changing the rear, front goes twice as long before it is changed out.
usually annually I'm changing the rear, front goes twice as long before it is changed out.
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+1 here! 2x rear tires and 1x front tire per season on an average. Next season, I buy 3 new ones and keep the old front tire as a spare.
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I'm about 10 days/400 miles in to a set of Vittoria Corsa NEXT, too. My impressions pretty much line up with primov8's, so far; they mounted/seated easily, hold air very well, are pretty damn grippy (haven't ridden them in the rain, yet), and are also pretty supple.
In comparison to some of my recent tires, I'd say that they're definitely more comfy than the Power Roads and the Pirelli P-Zero. In the dry, they're about as grippy as the P-Zero, which were absolutely glued to the road (well, in the dry - in the wet, the P-Zero can be a little scary). It's been too long since I've ridden the Schwalbe Pro One Evo, but my impression is that the Vittoria are a little more grippy, a little less supple, but both are really, really good tires. Oh, the Vittoria do hold an advantage over the Schwalbe, for me, in that they stay bead-locked to hookless rims when deflated, which makes maintenance easier.
This makes me look forward to trying the Corsa Pro Control next, which should be more supple, though less durable.
In comparison to some of my recent tires, I'd say that they're definitely more comfy than the Power Roads and the Pirelli P-Zero. In the dry, they're about as grippy as the P-Zero, which were absolutely glued to the road (well, in the dry - in the wet, the P-Zero can be a little scary). It's been too long since I've ridden the Schwalbe Pro One Evo, but my impression is that the Vittoria are a little more grippy, a little less supple, but both are really, really good tires. Oh, the Vittoria do hold an advantage over the Schwalbe, for me, in that they stay bead-locked to hookless rims when deflated, which makes maintenance easier.
This makes me look forward to trying the Corsa Pro Control next, which should be more supple, though less durable.
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I liked the SWorks Turbo RapidAir before the new T2/T5 came out. Those had excellent grip but wore down quickly and picked up a lot of little cuts. Gave the Schwalbe Pro One Addix TLE a try but as another poster noted, it squares off quickly and behaves differently. Those lasted about 1500mi, roughly 6 months, before picking up a series of punctures. Both of those seat easily with a track pump.
Right now, I've got the new SWorks Turbo T2/T5 on the 303's and the Enve SES on a pair of Scribe 32's. I couldn't get the Enve's beads to seat on either set of wheels as tubeless using a compressor and soapy water. I ended giving up and stuck latex tubes on them however that set up isn't all that bad.
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Question for the tubeless group.
I installed Conti 5000 S TR on Bontrager Elite 35 wheels with Trek rim strips. Tire size 25 with internal rim width of 19.5. Used the Bontrager Flash Can to set the beads as I’ve done before. Inflate and hear the typical “pop, pop, pop”, and tires hold air on the rims without sealant. They were properly on the rims. When I deflated them to add sealant, the beads would unseat. Put sealant in even though the beads were not set, and inflated them. They help air pretty well overnight, and held air over a 25 mile ride today.
Any ideas on how to stop the tires from unseating when deflated?
I installed Conti 5000 S TR on Bontrager Elite 35 wheels with Trek rim strips. Tire size 25 with internal rim width of 19.5. Used the Bontrager Flash Can to set the beads as I’ve done before. Inflate and hear the typical “pop, pop, pop”, and tires hold air on the rims without sealant. They were properly on the rims. When I deflated them to add sealant, the beads would unseat. Put sealant in even though the beads were not set, and inflated them. They help air pretty well overnight, and held air over a 25 mile ride today.
Any ideas on how to stop the tires from unseating when deflated?
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That is a pretty narrow tire for that rim unless you have a rim that had a ledge/ridge that helps keep the bead in. I'd say you need a 28 minimum for it to stay seated unless you have an aggressive tire-retention ridge or bump on the rim. You may not have that on your rims. I'm currently using 30s on rims with an internal width of 25mm. I'll move to 32s or 34s soon but these 30s measure 32mm and stay on when deflated fully. Rims are ZIPP Firecrest 303 hookless. If I recall, the tire-retaining ride was pretty pronounced on my rims.
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That is a pretty narrow tire for that rim unless you have a rim that had a ledge/ridge that helps keep the bead in. I'd say you need a 28 minimum for it to stay seated unless you have an aggressive tire-retention ridge or bump on the rim. You may not have that on your rims. I'm currently using 30s on rims with an internal width of 25mm. I'll move to 32s or 34s soon but these 30s measure 32mm and stay on when deflated fully. Rims are ZIPP Firecrest 303 hookless. If I recall, the tire-retaining ride was pretty pronounced on my rims.
my other bike has 28s on a hooked rim that has 21.5 internal width, and they stay on as you would expect.
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That is what I mean though...maybe these rims do not have a pronounced bead ridge. I had rims like that once (20mm internal width) and tubeless 25s would not stay on if deflated. Manufacturer told me to try 28s which was their minimum for that rim. Those stayed on. However, I did notice that the ridge was not very pronounced. Then I got some American Classic alloy tubeless rims and they had a pretty raised ridge and held tires really well...too well.