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Jackpot!
Pics to follow later on this weekend, but suffice to say that I have stumbled upon a true treasure trove. A few weeks ago, a friend asked me to assist a local seller to come up with an asking price for his bike. The fellow came by my place with an early 70's Raleigh International, built up with some impressive parts, and set up as a touring bike. We chat for a long time - he's a really great guy to talk with - and he tells me about the other "bike or two" he's got at his house. A French tandem. A custom Gitane. A few others, and - apparently - a bunch of vintage parts, new in the box. I ask him to give me a call if he decides to sell anything.
Time goes by and I hear from him earlier this week. We make an appointment to visit this evening.
And here's the thing: I walked into Bike Nirvana. He's got unbuilt frames hanging in his garage, his barn, his attic. BOXES of new brakes, derailleurs, cranks, cables, pads, saddles - everything you can possibly imagine, and stuff I've NEVER seen before. I cannot buy everything he has unless I plan to open a vintage bike shop... unbelievable that he has this much stuff.
BTW, the International was my size and even though I definitely do NOT need another bike, it is out in the van right now. Along with two never used, still in the package, vintage Brooks Pro saddles; same for a Brooks Colt; same for a Cyclone RD; same for a complete Sugino Mighty Drillium crank set and BB; same for a patent 1970 Campy NR drive kit. Probably some other stuff that I'm forgetting - not to mention the VERY cool bars, levers, and brakes on the International. I am still in shock at the stuff this neat old gentleman had on hand. It was a real privilege to stand around chatting with him about bikes for a couple of hours tonight, he's an awesome fellow.
Oh, and he also has some great restored Mustangs too.
Time goes by and I hear from him earlier this week. We make an appointment to visit this evening.
And here's the thing: I walked into Bike Nirvana. He's got unbuilt frames hanging in his garage, his barn, his attic. BOXES of new brakes, derailleurs, cranks, cables, pads, saddles - everything you can possibly imagine, and stuff I've NEVER seen before. I cannot buy everything he has unless I plan to open a vintage bike shop... unbelievable that he has this much stuff.
BTW, the International was my size and even though I definitely do NOT need another bike, it is out in the van right now. Along with two never used, still in the package, vintage Brooks Pro saddles; same for a Brooks Colt; same for a Cyclone RD; same for a complete Sugino Mighty Drillium crank set and BB; same for a patent 1970 Campy NR drive kit. Probably some other stuff that I'm forgetting - not to mention the VERY cool bars, levers, and brakes on the International. I am still in shock at the stuff this neat old gentleman had on hand. It was a real privilege to stand around chatting with him about bikes for a couple of hours tonight, he's an awesome fellow.
Oh, and he also has some great restored Mustangs too.
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See, this is what makes me want to chew on the derailleurs. Good for you, yeah, but when's it gonna happen to me?!
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Another great example where word of mouth/networking trumps searching ebay, C/L, thrift stores, etc.
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Please don't confuse ebay "asking" prices with "selling" prices. Many sellers never get their ask price. some are far from it. Value is determined once an item actually SELLS. Its easy enough to check SOLD prices.
Please don't confuse ebay "asking" prices with "selling" prices. Many sellers never get their ask price. some are far from it. Value is determined once an item actually SELLS. Its easy enough to check SOLD prices.
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Living vicariously ........ again
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I have a bunch of friends in K.C.
I'm really thinking it is a time for a visit!!!
I'm really thinking it is a time for a visit!!!
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1959 Hilton Wrigley Connoisseur (my favorite!)
1963 Hetchins Mountain King
1971 Gitane Tour de France (original owner)
* 1971 Gitane Super Corsa (crashed)
* rebuilt as upright cruiser
1971 Gitane Super Corsa #2 (sweet replacement)
1980 Ritchey Road Touring (The Grail Bike)
1982 Tom Ritchey Everest
(replacing stolen 1981 TR Everest custom)
1982 Tom Ritchey McKinley (touring pickup truck)
1985 ALAN Record (Glued & Screwed. A gift.)
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Good catch !!
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OK, just a little taste, nothing fancy about the photographs - here's some of the stuff as I was unloading from the van this morning.
I REALLY wish I'd taken photos of all the stuff he still has, but I felt weird about doing that. I didn't want him to think I was casing the joint or anything, and he's a great guy - I'd like to go back out and just swap riding stories with him again, so I didn't want to mess up that opportunity. I may ask him if he'd be willing to sit for an interview for the blog and get some shots of him and his stuff then.
Lotta "if's"... IF I'd had thousands of dollars lying around unused (y'know, 'cuz of my outrageous teacher salary...), and IF I wasn't trimming back the collection, and IF I'd had a MUCH bigger van or flatbed, I could've walked away with scads of things. But heck, I'm not even building anything at the moment, and pretty happy with where my collection of riders is at the moment. I had to really keep myself in check from buying the (fits me) Gitane Racing Team he had in the barn. (I'm done with French for a while though.)
Oh, and one other cool thing before I forget about it: this guy was a machinist at Hallmark for his career. In other words, he makes stuff from scratch... and a lot of that shows up on the bikes he's got, some of which he should've patented because not only are they cool looking, but they are very functional and useful. Case in point: he machined a piece that allowed two cables to come out of one junction on his French Gottfried tandem... makes it look like a constructeur had a hand in the build.
I REALLY wish I'd taken photos of all the stuff he still has, but I felt weird about doing that. I didn't want him to think I was casing the joint or anything, and he's a great guy - I'd like to go back out and just swap riding stories with him again, so I didn't want to mess up that opportunity. I may ask him if he'd be willing to sit for an interview for the blog and get some shots of him and his stuff then.
Lotta "if's"... IF I'd had thousands of dollars lying around unused (y'know, 'cuz of my outrageous teacher salary...), and IF I wasn't trimming back the collection, and IF I'd had a MUCH bigger van or flatbed, I could've walked away with scads of things. But heck, I'm not even building anything at the moment, and pretty happy with where my collection of riders is at the moment. I had to really keep myself in check from buying the (fits me) Gitane Racing Team he had in the barn. (I'm done with French for a while though.)
Oh, and one other cool thing before I forget about it: this guy was a machinist at Hallmark for his career. In other words, he makes stuff from scratch... and a lot of that shows up on the bikes he's got, some of which he should've patented because not only are they cool looking, but they are very functional and useful. Case in point: he machined a piece that allowed two cables to come out of one junction on his French Gottfried tandem... makes it look like a constructeur had a hand in the build.
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Ohh-lah-lah!! Nice... REALLY nice stuff! I love stories like this... Reminds me of the magic barn jjhabbs happened upon a few months back.
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Oh yeah... believe me when I say that jjhabbs treasure trove is precisely what was running through my mind last night. (Oddly enough, my wife thinks the guy just had boxes full of shiny old stuff and couldn't imagine how his wife would allow him to use up all that valuable attic space for unbuilt Houdaille bike frames, wheels, spokes, fenders, and other worthless junk...)
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Oh yeah... believe me when I say that jjhabbs treasure trove is precisely what was running through my mind last night. (Oddly enough, my wife thinks the guy just had boxes full of shiny old stuff and couldn't imagine how his wife would allow him to use up all that valuable attic space for unbuilt Houdaille bike frames, wheels, spokes, fenders, and other worthless junk...)
After reading your post more closely, I realize that you mentioned this guy being a machinist. I would really like to see some of the stuff you mentioned in your post. Please try to get an interview with this guy and get some pictures of his handiwork. We can't afford to lose the knowledge this guy has in his head.
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After reading your post more closely, I realize that you mentioned this guy being a machinist. I would really like to see some of the stuff you mentioned in your post. Please try to get an interview with this guy and get some pictures of his handiwork. We can't afford to lose the knowledge this guy has in his head.
After reading your post more closely, I realize that you mentioned this guy being a machinist. I would really like to see some of the stuff you mentioned in your post. Please try to get an interview with this guy and get some pictures of his handiwork. We can't afford to lose the knowledge this guy has in his head.
Ideas and the ability to fabricate them are the interesting areas.
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And I completely agree with you. I've already sent him a request for an interview and photos with that particular focus. He seems a pretty humble guy, but he's very proud of his accomplishments so I'd like to think this might appeal to him.
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Double dang. I too would love to see what he has made, Azorch. Being an inveterate tinkerer myself I love that kind of thing. Seeing pics of his space and bikes and stash would be a bonus. Keep us posted.
BTW; a machinist for HALLMARK? You mean the greeting card company???
Guitars??? Auto parts ????
BTW; a machinist for HALLMARK? You mean the greeting card company???
Guitars??? Auto parts ????
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Very cool! That is an unusual color for an International, or at least I haven't seen that one before. The interview with him will be a treat to read.
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Double dang. I too would love to see what he has made, Azorch. Being an inveterate tinkerer myself I love that kind of thing. Seeing pics of his space and bikes and stash would be a bonus. Keep us posted.
BTW; a machinist for HALLMARK? You mean the greeting card company???
Guitars??? Auto parts ????
BTW; a machinist for HALLMARK? You mean the greeting card company???
Guitars??? Auto parts ????
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According to Kurt's site, it is an uncatalogued Burgandy (or Rudge Maroon) from 1971(?) - 72. The seat stay wraps make me think '71-72 also.
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Fantastic find.