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Old 05-21-13, 04:12 PM
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Cannot believe this bike is still on the market..

This paramount has been on the market for a few weeks, maybe a month. Paramount PDG + modern 105. If it was my size, I'd jump on it..

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/bik/3804443178.html
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Old 05-21-13, 04:20 PM
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Probably the size. The component group is good but not styling. That splatter paint...
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It doesn't surprise me I saw a similar Paramount same model excellent condition but with original shifters sit on CL in Denver for over a year at $400.
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It's that skyward pointing handlebar that's keeping the buyers away, I bet.......Oh, and maybe the ocean backdrop, unconsciously= lots of corrosion?? Unless, of course, that's one of the great lakes.....
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I dunno. The paint is ugly and it's small.

For the record, Chombi, I think that handlebar is fine! I like it angled a little up so the part of the bar leading to the hoods is almost flat.
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Originally Posted by zukahn1
It doesn't surprise me I saw a similar Paramount same model excellent condition but with original shifters sit on CL in Denver for over a year at $400.
It's still on there with nary a change in the ad or the price.....
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Seems like ambitious pricing for my area.
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Old 05-21-13, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect
I dunno. The paint is ugly and it's small.

For the record, Chombi, I think that handlebar is fine! I like it angled a little up so the part of the bar leading to the hoods is almost flat.
Yes, I see the logic of the modern bar setups, kinda like a highish bulhorn bar with the high levers/hoods but still a drop to go to.
Just plugging in a little C&V aesthetic comment in there....
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When the economy trickles down from the Wall Street people, the collector market will swing upwards! Have patience, things will be great even for a Paramount PDG with entry level 105's.
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Originally Posted by gioscinelli
When the economy trickles down from the Wall Street people

LOL.
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Too high of a price, ugly paint, most people don't know what a Paramount is..
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Fwiw.

Our cl is so clogged with overpriced "collectible" bicycles, it has turned me off but good.

I hardly look anymore.
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect
LOL.
Yah,........the economy never got to trickle down...especially to us in the Architectural field.......
https://education.yahoo.net/articles/....htm?kid=1O0V3

Don't be expecting any Architect to buy that thing anytime soon!
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Old 05-21-13, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chombi
Yah,........the economy never got to trickle down...especially to us in the Architectural field.......
https://education.yahoo.net/articles/....htm?kid=1O0V3

Don't be expecting any Architect to buy that thing anytime soon!
Creativity has definitely lost its place in this economy. Thank God I'm not creative lol
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Originally Posted by shoota
Creativity has definitely lost its place in this economy. Thank God I'm not creative lol
........You must be and engineer then! (Sorry, Olde Archi joke)
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There's been much creative shuffling of wealth however. Highly Creative.
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Originally Posted by Chombi
........You must be and engineer then! (Sorry, Olde Archi joke)
Yeah, Computer Engineer in training

There's a little bit of truth in every joke..
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Old 05-21-13, 05:53 PM
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The STIs are 10 years old and only 9 speeds, which is pretty much what new Sora is up to now. The components aren't worth a whole lot, although I'm sure they work fine. It also has a unicrown fork.
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Originally Posted by F red
The STIs are 10 years old and only 9 speeds, which is pretty much what new Sora is up to now. The components aren't worth a whole lot, although I'm sure they work fine. It also has a unicrown fork.
Unicrown could mean minus 50-100 bucks instantly in most C&V circles...... They are kind of the "Pajama pants" of bikes.....they work good and feel good enough, but dang, they just don't look that good after some years, especially on a road race bike.....to the point of some asking, "What were they thinking??!"
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Old 05-21-13, 07:01 PM
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IMHO the seller needs to take a clean picture. Remove the bags and bottles, take the picture against a nice backdrop that shows off the bike. Also, take the pic on the drive side. That said, the price is high, but not crazy high, I think it will sell for $400.
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I've always seen most "PDG" Japamounts only sell in the range of $180-$250.
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Old 05-21-13, 09:58 PM
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I bought one of these a couple of years ago. It was a PDG 7 I think. Originally had 600 Tricolor but mostly replaced by 10 speed 105. The unicrown fork was ugly but the rest of the frame was pretty nice. It was an attractive lavender color and had diamond reinforcements for the bottle cage mounts, brake bridge, etc. Also nice internal brake cable routing on the top tube.
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Old 05-21-13, 09:58 PM
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hmm, i guess I must have a serious disconnect. I thought paramount routinely go to 800-1k territory on Ebay?
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Old 05-22-13, 03:30 AM
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for $40 I still would not be too thrilled at the though of buying it.

The frames too small for me, I don't think the frame would sell well on its own. I don't want to ride a bike with that groupset, sure it works but I have other bikes/groups I would rather ride. Ok at $40 I could make some money parting it out but it would require some time/effort/ boxing and postage costs.

This bike fall between vintage and modern. Its too modern to be a classic and vintage cool bike. yet too vintage to be good to use at racing, its steal.
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Originally Posted by CenturionIM
hmm, i guess I must have a serious disconnect. I thought paramount routinely go to 800-1k territory on Ebay?
Only the Waterford Paramounts. The series Paramounts are a different animal entirely. Now I have seen plenty of them go for more than the $180 to $250 mark, I would consider that price range for a series 5 or higher to be way low. Series 2 and 3 dip into that range.

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